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Pick a partner for Eliot in Finding Home 
30th-Aug-2014 01:40 pm
Lindsey and eliot
I've closed the poll and made my decisions. Despite votes for Neal being overwhelming, i'm not going in that direction since there are issues with the relationship I can't reconcile. Instead, I will be going with Eliot/Hannibal and Neal/Henry Morgan (from Forever).

This poll is closed.

Who should Eliot be paired with?

Hannibal King (Blade)
Neal Caffrey (White Collar)
Duke Crocker (Haven)
Vic Mansfield (Once a Thief)

If I don't pick Neal, I'm contemplating pairing Neal with Cory Raines, because two Immortal conmen and thieves is way too fun and I can bring in Amanda. (Also, I get my Nick Lea fix). Or possibly Ichabod Crane, mostly because it makes me snicker. And that's how most of my writing starts. I think I have a very twisted muse. Ooh, or Quinn, the other hitter. I think I need another poll.

Hannibal King:

Neal Caffrey:


Duke Crocker:


Vic Mansfield:

30th-Aug-2014 06:36 pm (UTC)
I went with Hannibal because he's basically a mix of Parker's crazy with Hardison's wit and smarts, and Eliot/Hardison/Parker are my forever Leverage OT3. ;D

I don't see him being a good mix with Neal, imho, though I get why everyone crosses Leverage with White Collar. Eliot's just too down to earth for someone as (pretendingly) high-class as Neal. I can't picture Neal in his ridiculous three piece suits and fancy hats relaxing over a homecooked meal with Eliot in his jeans and cowboy boots, even if the meal is gourmet.
30th-Aug-2014 06:47 pm (UTC)
My OTPs are Tony/Steve and Methos/Eliot (because even my OTPs have to be crossovers :p ). I'm also leaning heavily toward Hannibal, with a side of Duke, who's also full of attitude, but mostly tries to do the right thing... when he isn't thoroughly enjoying doing the wrong thing. Hmm... maybe I should try my first threesome.

I don't really see Neal and Eliot either, but a lot of people were interested, and I changed my mind about who to pair with Lindsey, so I figured I'd give everyone a chance at changing my mind. My biggest issue with Neal is the same reason I have trouble writing Eliot and Sophie scenes, he never seems to fully trust grifters. With the con and the team, sure, but I never really felt like they clicked the same way he did with the others.

Also Dark Angel FTW!
30th-Aug-2014 09:10 pm (UTC)
I see Neal is winning, but Duke would be a serious stroke of genius!! I LOOOOVE Duke Crocker!!
31st-Aug-2014 06:41 am (UTC)
It's mostly to gauge preferences. Doesn't mean I'll weight it the same as my own when I'm writing :p
And I have a feeling Neal's winning because most people are as familiar with the others. Plus, Duke is awesome.
31st-Aug-2014 03:26 am (UTC)
I do agree that both Duke and Hannibal would fit better with Eliot than either Neal or Vic in my mind. However, I went with Hannibal for two reasons: he also operates outside the law most of the time, and also because every time I look at Duke, I see Jesse from BtVS. So when I picture him in a crossover pairing, in my mind it always ends up being Xander.
31st-Aug-2014 06:45 am (UTC)
That's the direction I'm leaning in, too. I keep forgetting he was in Buffy.
31st-Aug-2014 12:53 pm (UTC)
I've read some great Neal/Eliot fics- so it has to be that choice for me! Maybe have Neal as knowing Eliot before they were criminals...maybe at one point witsec had Neal where Eliot and Lindsey grew up and maybe that look Methos gave to Eliot means he also knows Neal...maybe he taught them a little something...

Edited at 2014-08-31 12:56 pm (UTC)
31st-Aug-2014 01:01 pm (UTC)
Do you have some recs? Most of the Neal/Eliot fics I've read were short encounters after which they go their separate ways. Which I could totally see. It's the longterm thing I'm not sure I could get behind with them.

Methos recognises Eliot (as more than just Lindsey's twin) because Kronos is a very naughty boy and Methos likes to keep track of what he's up to.
31st-Aug-2014 01:11 pm (UTC)


these are the best- if you do want to bring Neal in then maybe make them a past pairing to satisfy those who like the pairing- and they parted on good terms- maybe Kronos taught them both...liked the pair being opposites...or something...
31st-Aug-2014 03:19 pm (UTC)
Since Eliot's got blood relatives he can't be Immortal and given White Collar canon, I'm not to sure I could swing Neal as anything other than pre-Immortal or newly Immortal.

If I could swing that Eliot knew Neal before he became Neal Caffrey - conman extraordinaire, then I might be able to write it. My biggest issue isn't the small things like their differences in philosophies, which actually aren't all that different, it's that Eliot only trusts people who are honest with him on a personal level and Neal isn't very honest about much, not even to himself, I'd wager.

Although, it would be thoroughly amusing to make him Kronos' new student. Especially if he was involved with Eliot.
31st-Aug-2014 01:34 pm (UTC)
I chose Neal because I see them as complementary personalities. Eliot works in a violent field (he is the hitter on the team). He would respect someone who chooses not to use violence and for all that Neal is non-violent, he does have dark side, look how he went after Fowler because of Kate. Also, while we always see Neal in a three-piece suit, he did not come from money so he would be comfortable in a more down to earth setting and while he was with Kate, he wasn't always so well put together. But I think it is also because he was in prison where he did not have a choice that he now surrounds himself with good things so as to put distance between those two parts of his life, if that makes sense. Sorry that this dragged on, hope it helps.
31st-Aug-2014 03:28 pm (UTC)
I'd figure they were actually fairly similar in their views on violence - limited violence applied to solve the problem. Neal may not apply that violence himself, but he's not shy about letting the FBI do it. I also agree that Neal has a dark side that can be just as ruthless as Eliot and that they probably came from similar backgrounds. I don't even have an issue with Neal's sophistication vs Eliot's down-to-earth-ness. The issue I have with writing them is more fundamental, I think. Neal lies and Eliot doesn't, not in personal relationships. If someone could offer a solution to that hurdle, I'd happily write them. :D
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31st-Aug-2014 03:49 pm (UTC)
He'll totally be added to the family anyway. Eventually. They probably all will, depending on how many years it takes me to write this series.

Despite Neal's popularity, I'm still leaning toward Hannibal.

But I'm growing more and more fond of the idea of Kronos taking newly Immortal Neal on as a student in a bid to prove to Methos he's a new man. Oh course, it won't exactly work. Peter and Tony can despair at Damien Moreau training Neal.
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31st-Aug-2014 04:02 pm (UTC)
Teehee. Only my Smith and Jones aren't exactly throw away ;)
1st-Sep-2014 03:46 am (UTC)
I'm butting in to say I adore the idea of Neal being a new Immortal - he'd be great at adapting to changing time periods, so would have a higher chance than most to survive. It's a great way to bring him into the 'family', Shifty. Brilliant!

Even better is the idea of Kronos taking him on as a student, and not for any ridiculous altruistic (hah!) reasons. That would be hilarious! You should definitely write that no matter what. It's too good to pass up. :D
1st-Sep-2014 05:28 am (UTC)
Kronos would totally show up at Methos' place one day with Neal in tow and be all "Look what I found. I'm being all responsible." And Methos just giving him this look while Neal thinks "Oh my god, what is my life now."
1st-Sep-2014 05:56 am (UTC)
Yeah, with all the presumption of a cat dropping a dead mouse at your feet.

And likely about as much follow through too!

Edited at 2014-09-01 06:04 am (UTC)
1st-Sep-2014 04:21 am (UTC)
You didn't put him in the poll, but you mentioned Quinn and that's where my vote is being put. He's a hitter like Eliot and they both seem to get along outside of business which is awesome. Plus, Quinn is a great character that isn't in many fics so seeing him in it (with Eliot to boot!) would be pretty cool. It's also within the actual fandom (nothing against the crossover pairings, in fact I love the ones so far!) since it's also nice to see straight up fandom pairings once in a while, especially in a big crossover such as your series.
1st-Sep-2014 05:11 am (UTC)
Those suggestions were alternatives for Neal, not Eliot. To me, Eliot and Quinn are reluctant BFFs. (Besides, I've already got Methos/Kronos, Monroe/Rosalee and Chris/Vin for single fandom pairings :p )
1st-Sep-2014 07:43 am (UTC)
I went with Hannibal.
Neal's great, really. But I feel that, considering how Methos and Dean dress, any suit-wearing gents should be involved with Tony's team somehow.
Neal could fit into a crossover based more on the FBI side on things, perhaps? A case involving both white collar crime and whatever they call Tony's specialty on the books, maybe? Neal would get along SO WELL with at least three of them! And even the fourth is a strong possibility!
1st-Sep-2014 07:56 am (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree with you. Though Neal will probably be introduced to Tony's team via Kronos, not work, but Tony and Peter will inevitably end up running herd on the lot of them.
3rd-Sep-2014 01:12 am (UTC)
What would they call Tony's unit on paper, do you think? They have to put SOMETHING on the paperwork when they pass cases to Our Heroes.
Once again, I think of the BAU. They must have looked into what cases get sent Tony's way.
Gibbs too, come to think of it, though I don't really care if he shows up again or not.
And how do they deal with the lack of arrests? There's only so many times you can say that the perp was shot while resisting arrest before it starts to look bad.
3rd-Sep-2014 04:19 am (UTC)
They're a criminal investigation field unit and most of the time everyone else is just really glad not to have to deal with the weird case themselves, so they don't ask too many questions.
The BAU has given their cases a shallow look, but between Crawford and Tony, they've sanitised most of it. At some point, I've got a fic where the BAU has cause to look at the team much more closely.
They have sometimes have arrests, like with the NCIS fic. But most of the time, when there's something like Parasomnia and people are dying and then they're not, the higher ups consciously decide not to look too closely at whatever cover-up Tony comes up with. As long as the weird stuff other agents haven't been able to solve stops happening.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it :D
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